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	<title>Comments on: ST201: ST16601 Smartcard Teardown</title>
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		<title>By: joe alpha</title>
		<link>http://www.flylogic.net/blog/?p=18&#038;cpage=1#comment-1666</link>
		<dc:creator>joe alpha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 05:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>does st use light sensors on there newer chips like infineon does ? also are the bus lines always next to the eeprom ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>does st use light sensors on there newer chips like infineon does ? also are the bus lines always next to the eeprom ?</p>
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		<title>By: notserpe</title>
		<link>http://www.flylogic.net/blog/?p=18&#038;cpage=1#comment-1589</link>
		<dc:creator>notserpe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 11:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patiently waiting for more ST secure MCU teardown articles...!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patiently waiting for more ST secure MCU teardown articles&#8230;!</p>
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		<title>By: Nilquader</title>
		<link>http://www.flylogic.net/blog/?p=18&#038;cpage=1#comment-1316</link>
		<dc:creator>Nilquader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 21:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>old-school devices? You should have a look at the AMSTRAD40908, this chip was used in the 90s by Amstrad as a protection device for their GX4000 game cartridges. Would be interesting to see how secure it really was...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>old-school devices? You should have a look at the AMSTRAD40908, this chip was used in the 90s by Amstrad as a protection device for their GX4000 game cartridges. Would be interesting to see how secure it really was&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.flylogic.net/blog/?p=18&#038;cpage=1#comment-1245</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 20:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please see Wired magazine&#039;s recent article-

http://www.wired.com/politics/security/news/2008/05/tarnovsky
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/05/hacker-at-cente.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please see Wired magazine&#8217;s recent article-</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wired.com/politics/security/news/2008/05/tarnovsky" rel="nofollow">http://www.wired.com/politics/security/news/2008/05/tarnovsky</a><br />
<a href="http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/05/hacker-at-cente.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/05/hacker-at-cente.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Proteus</title>
		<link>http://www.flylogic.net/blog/?p=18&#038;cpage=1#comment-1237</link>
		<dc:creator>Proteus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 22:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi again:

- I thank you for your initiative, so I&#039;m really keen on finding out how their numbering system works.
Another thing is: - if I&#039;m interested on layer removal, I should get some HF (fluoridric acid)which is not easy to find here. Can I use some other product? What are the concentrations of the chemicals?

Sorry about all these questions...

Thx.

Best regards ;-).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi again:</p>
<p>- I thank you for your initiative, so I&#8217;m really keen on finding out how their numbering system works.<br />
Another thing is: &#8211; if I&#8217;m interested on layer removal, I should get some HF (fluoridric acid)which is not easy to find here. Can I use some other product? What are the concentrations of the chemicals?</p>
<p>Sorry about all these questions&#8230;</p>
<p>Thx.</p>
<p>Best regards <img src='http://www.flylogic.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.flylogic.net/blog/?p=18&#038;cpage=1#comment-1236</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 17:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, we will write up the ST101 article as soon as we can find the time.  More of the problem is the setup for the article what to image and display and such.  It might be so-so boring to most users otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, we will write up the ST101 article as soon as we can find the time.  More of the problem is the setup for the article what to image and display and such.  It might be so-so boring to most users otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Proteus</title>
		<link>http://www.flylogic.net/blog/?p=18&#038;cpage=1#comment-1235</link>
		<dc:creator>Proteus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 17:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, there:

- Impressive...
Any chances on: - &quot;[...] but we’ll get into their numbering system when we write the ST101 article (we skipped it and jumped straight to ST201 to bring you the good stuff sooner!). [...]&quot;
Looking forward ;)...

Thx.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, there:</p>
<p>- Impressive&#8230;<br />
Any chances on: &#8211; &#8220;[...] but we’ll get into their numbering system when we write the ST101 article (we skipped it and jumped straight to ST201 to bring you the good stuff sooner!). [...]&#8221;<br />
Looking forward <img src='http://www.flylogic.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8230;</p>
<p>Thx.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.flylogic.net/blog/?p=18&#038;cpage=1#comment-1210</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, we never dilute HNO3.  HNO3 does not attack oxides.  HCL should be diluted when used to achieve the proper rate of etch (ROE) however this is for etching metals off.

We use diluted HF (HydroFluoric acid) which if absorbed into your skin will attack your bone-marrow and feel painless until it&#039;s too late.

HF attacks oxiodes :).

If you master the use of HF, you can control the ROE and etch only certain depths (in micrometers) and achieve the results as seen in this introduction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, we never dilute HNO3.  HNO3 does not attack oxides.  HCL should be diluted when used to achieve the proper rate of etch (ROE) however this is for etching metals off.</p>
<p>We use diluted HF (HydroFluoric acid) which if absorbed into your skin will attack your bone-marrow and feel painless until it&#8217;s too late.</p>
<p>HF attacks oxiodes <img src='http://www.flylogic.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>If you master the use of HF, you can control the ROE and etch only certain depths (in micrometers) and achieve the results as seen in this introduction.</p>
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		<title>By: Iker De Echaniz</title>
		<link>http://www.flylogic.net/blog/?p=18&#038;cpage=1#comment-1207</link>
		<dc:creator>Iker De Echaniz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, impressive blog. Did you use distiled water diluted HNO3 or HCL, (both from industrial cleaning products) with a syringe and a suctioner? That&#039;s what I would do but I still don&#039;t have any microscope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, impressive blog. Did you use distiled water diluted HNO3 or HCL, (both from industrial cleaning products) with a syringe and a suctioner? That&#8217;s what I would do but I still don&#8217;t have any microscope.</p>
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		<title>By: The Whole is Less than the Sum of the Parts &#187; Secure ID card anyone ?</title>
		<link>http://www.flylogic.net/blog/?p=18&#038;cpage=1#comment-146</link>
		<dc:creator>The Whole is Less than the Sum of the Parts &#187; Secure ID card anyone ?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 08:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wish the * in the present UK government that are determined to push ID cards upon us would read this and reflect upon [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] wish the * in the present UK government that are determined to push ID cards upon us would read this and reflect upon [...]</p>
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